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PA Gov Josh Shapiro: Here’s Why Harris Is on Track to Defeating Trump

As polls show a tight race in Pennsylvania, which Trump cannot lose, Governor Josh Shapiro explains why he thinks Kamala Harris is on her way to beating him there—and winning the election.

Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro waves
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Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, on August 21

If Kamala Harris can defeat Donald Trump in Pennsylvania, she almost certainly will win the presidency. It’s must-win for him. Yet the state remains a coin-flip—which is why both candidates campaigned in the state this week. So what is Harris’s path to victory? We talked to Governor Josh Shapiro, who explained why the race is so close—and why he thinks she’s “on her way” to winning there, in part due to concerted communications with non-college voters. Shapiro also responded at length to Trump’s lies about Haitian immigrants living in Pennsylvania, pronouncing them “utter bullshit.” Listen to this episode here. A transcript is here.