Finally, Mike Johnson Makes His Move to Shiv Marjorie Taylor Greene

Here on the podcast we’ve repeatedly argued that Mike Johnson might ultimately allow a vote on military aid to Ukraine, even if it risks his ouster as speaker by MAGA forces in the House. Now that moment has arrived: House GOP leaders are preparing to move forward with Ukraine aid as part of a package of bills—and Marjorie Taylor Greene is furious. We talked to Democratic Representative Mikie Sherrill of New Jersey, a former U.S. Navy Pilot and member of the Armed Services Committee, who helps unravel why Johnson is doing this now, its prospects for success, and the true extent of Russian influence over MAGA.